Jan. 18, 2026

Hanford Insider: How A Brewery, A Builder, And A Vision Aim To Transform Downtown Hanford

Send me a text and give me feedback on this episode! A 19th-century courthouse is about to get a 21st-century heartbeat. We sit down with builder and BarrelHouse Brewing co-founder Kevin Nickell to unpack the real work of revival: clearing decades of debris, rebuilding plumbing and electrical systems, modernizing accessibility, and protecting the building’s neoclassical Romanesque beauty while preparing it for modern life. Kevin shares how a contractor’s mindset, sharpened by the 2008 downtur...

Send me a text and give me feedback on this episode!

A 19th-century courthouse is about to get a 21st-century heartbeat. We sit down with builder and BarrelHouse Brewing co-founder Kevin Nickell to unpack the real work of revival: clearing decades of debris, rebuilding plumbing and electrical systems, modernizing accessibility, and protecting the building’s neoclassical Romanesque beauty while preparing it for modern life. Kevin shares how a contractor’s mindset, sharpened by the 2008 downturn and years of hands-on operations, informs a pragmatic plan to turn a landmark into a daily destination.

We trace the roadmap: stabilize the basement and core utilities, lease the basement and second floor to offset carrying costs, then launch an upstairs anchor with BarrelHouse and a strong food partner that draws consistent foot traffic. It’s intentional design for spillover—every visitor walks past ground-floor businesses, creating discovery and demand. Kevin also breaks down the difference between the courthouse and the Bastille, why structure matters, and how preservation rules shape smart choices like removing tired awnings while keeping the exterior intact.

If you’re a local entrepreneur, this is your nudge. Early tenants can secure space as systems come online, benefiting from reduced friction and thoughtful base build-outs. Kevin’s team has already proven the model at the Wealth Building, where upgrades, fair pricing, and reliable maintenance helped coffee, retail, and service businesses grow. Add community news, a robust events calendar, and a full sports rundown, and you’ve got a snapshot of Hanford’s momentum and what it takes to keep it moving. Subscribe, share with a neighbor, and tell us: what business would you bring to the courthouse?

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00:00 - Welcome & What’s Ahead

00:48 - Community News: Retirement & Council Agenda

02:28 - Events Roundup & How To Submit

03:48 - Meet Kevin Nickel & Courthouse History

05:15 - Building The Team: Construction To BarrelHouse

08:20 - Projects Across The Valley

10:27 - Reviving The Wealth Building

13:42 - Upstairs Offices & Small Biz Momentum

16:00 - Courthouse Vision: Infrastructure First

18:20 - Preserving History & Exterior Plans

20:18 - Finds, Misconceptions & Bastille vs Courthouse

22:40 - Timeline, Tenants, And Food Partner Plans

25:40 - Invitation To Entrepreneurs & Support

28:10 - Sports Report: Local Highlights

32:07 - Closing, Newsletter & How To Help

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On this episode of The Hanford Insider, we'll get an update from Kevin Nickel on the courthouse renovations.

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Rob will highlight some of this week's community events, and I'll be back with your sports report.

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This is the Hanford Insider for Monday, January nineteenth.

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Welcome to the Hanford Insider Podcast.

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I'm Rob Bentley, and each episode we highlight the people and the places that shape our community.

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In community news, it was announced last week that community service officer Tony Braz is retiring after eleven years of service with the Hanford Police Department.

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In a celebration in her honor, Chief Stephanie Huddleston said that Tony consistently performed beyond the call of duty, delivering unmatched productivity.

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In her final year alone, she authored an impressive two hundred and twenty-seven cases, which was the highest completed by any member of the department.

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Congratulations, Tony, on a well-deserved retirement.

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The Hanford City Council will be meeting on Tuesday, January 19th.

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And boy, do they have a loaded agenda.

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In the afternoon study session, they'll receive a report on the landscape and lighting districts, and they'll review a comprehensive report for the end of the fiscal year ending June 30th, 2025.

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They'll also be continuing the discussion of hiring a new city manager.

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In the general session at seven, they have many items on the consent calendar.

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And they also have a public hearing regarding the new Copper Ridge mixed use project being proposed across from Freedom Park.

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And general business, they have four items, including the agreement with the new city manager who will be announced.

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And given the developments in the last month, it's sure to be our current interim city manager, Chris Tavares.

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Don't forget, if you can't make the meeting in person, you can watch the proceedings live on the city website.

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Mayor Mark Kyrus will have a Wednesday wrap-up following the meeting, which I'll repost here on The Insider.

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Let's take a look at this week's community calendar.

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Don't forget, Monday is the Dr.

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Martin Luther King celebration at the Hanford Civic Auditorium.

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It kicks off with a free breakfast at 9 a.m.

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and then there will be presentations and activities for the whole family.

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On Saturday, January 24th, there's a watercolor essentials class being held at the Kings Arts Center.

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Visit KingsArtsCenter.org for more details.

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On Saturday evening, there's a Bachata Salsa Social at the Patty Dance Studio.

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Visit Pattystudio.com for more information.

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Coming up on Saturday, January 28th, you'll have your chance to talk with Hanford City Councilmember Travis Payton and Public Works Director Russ Sterling at the Council Corner.

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This will be held at Me and Ed's Pizza on 10th and Fargo from 5.30 to 7 p.m.

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This is your chance to get your questions answered.

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If you have an event coming up, large or small, and you'd like some help getting the word out, let's work together.

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Send your information to HanfordInsider at gmail.com.

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Be sure to subscribe to my weekly newsletter to get a complete calendar of events.

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It's the most comprehensive community calendar available.

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If you're a lover of Hanford and old buildings, you're going to love this episode.

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I have with me today Mr.

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Kevin Nickel from a Steam Land Company.

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He and his partner Jason Carvalho own a Steam Land Company and Carvalho Construction and Barrel House Brewing.

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And we know that they have something brewing at the old courthouse building in Hanford.

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Welcome to the show, Kevin.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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Kevin, the his the history of the courthouse building is so fascinating.

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It was actually constructed in 1896.

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In 1914, they expanded it.

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And in 1977, when the new government center was built on Lacey Boulevard, uh the building was put on the National Register of Historic Places.

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In the 1980s, developer Max Walden worked on the building and developed Courthouse Square with the merry-go-round and some features there.

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And I have a little special tie to that that I'll share in just a few minutes.

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But uh Kevin, we are so excited for what's happening at the courthouse.

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But before we talk about the courthouse specifically, let's talk a little bit about the history of a Steam Land company and maybe some of your goals.

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Oh, right on.

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I learned a learned little history from you right there.

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I didn't know about the um the early 1977.

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I didn't know those dates.

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It's kind of good.

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Um every day we learn a little something about that building, so which is which is pretty cool.

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But um yeah, as for Steam Land, uh Steam Land was actually developed um the most recent.

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Actually, it's the newest uh addition to our portfolio with um Jason and I.

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We we started as building contractors.

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So we started um Jason right out of Cal Poly went to work for granite construction, and I was um working for um actually it was Cambridge Homes, which got bought out by Lenar early in the Lenar days.

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I was one of the first Lenar employees and um worked as a superintendent for those guys and then moved over to another builder on Central Coast while Jason worked at granite construction uh in Santa Maria.

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And him and I just grew up together.

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He's my cousin.

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Um we grew up together and we always taught construction and I just always liked the the fact that he was doing big bridges and roads and multimillion dollar stuff and just just just interesting things, you know.

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Um but um that you know we're we're builders, we're we're we're contractors.

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And I I was in 2006, we started Carvalho construction.

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I I I was um, you know, we went into, well, should I say, I was I was successful, slow starting, and then 2008 hit, and we all know what happened there.

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Um, but what the good thing was, and we didn't real I didn't realize it now, you know, looking back, but you know, we went in with absolutely no debt, you know.

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We we didn't go out, we weren't buying stuff.

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Well, all these other contractors had spooled up for this big boom in construction, and then you saw the defaults in in 2008.

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Well, that's you know, I was going to job bids, and I'm one, two people bidding jobs, and we had no overhead.

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So I was landing great projects and you know, had great experience.

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Um, so we we did really well between that 2008 and 2012 market uh for us.

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So our our time, our timing was good.

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Um and so I started building up a little bit of a nest egg, and um, I'm I'm a saver, so uh, I'm not one I don't like to borrow money.

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Uh I like to pay off debt and not have debt.

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And uh so Jason comes to me and he goes, Man, he goes, You're you're you're kicking butt, you know.

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Um he says, Um, you know, what do you think?

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We there's this brewery that opened up up the road at Buuleton, and let's um, you know, what what do you think about opening a brewery, you know?

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And he he was homebrewing with another friend of ours that lived down the street from him.

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And it was um it at first I'm like, uh, this is kind of, you know, this is kind of crazy.

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And I'm thinking, nah, this isn't, you know, what what I want to do and not my plan.

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So he says, come on down here.

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You know, he lived in um he lived in Orket at the time.

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So went down there and I'd spent a lot of time visiting him on the weekends, and we went down to uh Fig Mountain Brewing Company, which is what it was in Bulleton.

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And it looked really cool, and they were booming.

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I mean, the place was just packed, and and it was like on a Wednesday or something.

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I thought, whoa, all right, this is pretty cool, you know.

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They got they got great beer and uh the vibe was good.

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And then shortly after he gets me down to the they actually had that year the craft beer conference was in uh San Diego.

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And so I'm down on the floor of this monster convention center, and there's just all this just cool equipment and stainless and conveyance and packaging, and and I was just I walked out of that blown away.

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I thought this is the coolest thing.

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Well, I'm looking at all the mechanics and the construction side of everything, and he was just totally engaged with he's over there looking at the grain guys and the hot guys, and and he's looking at the the the types of beer and and how to make beer and all the different cool ways.

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And we're sitting in on all these seminars and classes, and and he's over there educating himself on how to make great beer, and and I'm over there figuring out, you know, how how do I build the place like this?

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This is a cool, this is the coolest stuff, you know.

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So I think the contractor and us came out and and it we didn't realize it, and you know, took a little while looking back, going, wow, we were we were the perfect team for this.

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Um and that's how we that's how we kind of rolled into to barrel house.

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Um and there's more I can tell you about that, but just trying to summarize, you know, kind of where where we came from.

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Um so then next we, you know, we opened our house.

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We get, you know, years later, and it was 2013.

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So we've been open.

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This was in Vicelia, right?

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No, this is in Paso Rolls.

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Paso, okay.

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Paso.

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And and I I can tell you a lot, I could tell you a lot of stories uh about um where we started and and all that good stuff and how we picked a location and stuff.

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There's there's a lot of history there, and I could entertain you with a lot of wild, just stupid stuff that we did.

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Well to have you back uh for sure.

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So um in hand you've got projects going in Hanford, but you have some other projects that you've done uh in Viselia.

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Did you do the barrel house in Viselia as well?

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Yeah, no, anything, anything barrel house, anything anything barrel house we build.

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Carvalho construction builds everything.

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Jason and I build everything for ourselves.

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So we we build everything barrel house.

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But our manufacturing facilities in Passerobles, that's where we manufacture.

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We have tap rooms in Viselia, Fresno, and then now uh January 24th, we open the new one in Bakersfield.

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Oh, that's we have we have a new one coming in Bakersfield.

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All right, we'll get back to Barrel House in just a minute, but I want to kind of bring it back home to uh Hanford and the Wealth building.

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A lot of people know uh it's a popular place for coffee now and the asay bar, and there's a lot about that building.

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There's stories to be told.

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What kind of businesses uh well before we get into the businesses, maybe just a little bit about that building and things that you had to do to make it suitable for all these businesses that are coming in.

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Right on.

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We um we bought the wealth building.

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Actually, our Carvalho construction company used to have our office there in the wealth building.

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Um, and the owner, Denver John Stone, who's now passed away, great, great man.

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Um, I really had a lot of respect for him.

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Um he actually sold us the building.

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And he was he was after me for a while to buy it.

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I knew he was getting ready to retire, and so we we bought the building from him.

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And he was older, and it was the building was really, he just couldn't keep up with it.

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But that that old guy, 90 years old, up on the ladder every day in there working and trying to keep up on the building.

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It was uh, you know, it's daily maintenance, a building that size when you got tenant turnover, and he had vacancies too.

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He had a handful of them, quite a few of them actually at the time, just because he just couldn't market them and so forth.

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So uh we ended up buying the building from him.

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Um, and then we just slowly started renovating.

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Um, HVAC was uh it was a big one.

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Um, the roof, there was roof leaks, um, there was just a lot of a lot of suites that weren't modernized or updated.

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Downstairs, he had uh the old semen shoe.

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Uh you probably remember that.

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That that stayed vacant for for a long time.

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So we remodeled that, which was we brought in Divinity Clothing.

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She came in from downtown and moved in there.

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Um so we we acquired the wealth building, and then we just started renovating everything.

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Every time there was a vacancy, we renovated it and then we started marketing it.

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My vision was that I believed that downtown, you know, those downtown places could do very well.

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So we we seeked out and met up with um the Osaible and uh Cafecito, which are uh great businesses.

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Actually, um Cafecito came from the uh fast credit union.

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I don't know if you know that.

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Yeah.

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So they have cornerstone in there now, but yeah, they originally were in the fast building.

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Yeah, and and he he was um, I think him and and the fast credit union were kind of at odds a little bit, maybe at the time.

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Um both great people, and I think they they both had have a great vision, but he just wasn't doing the business.

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But his product and his branding, and I walked in there and I thought it was the coolest thing.

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I thought, man, this guy's got it going on.

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He he's doing he's doing good, you know, but he could do way better if he was over here and more visible.

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Nobody knows he's here.

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And I just thought, man, what a what an amazing coffee shop.

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This thing, this this is the best coffee shop in Hanford, and he's he's he's hidden in here uh and he's limited, you know, by the bank hours.

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He can only be open when the bake was open.

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And and he was frustrated by that, I think.

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And and I could see it.

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So I convinced him to come over and and he um he came into the wealth building.

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They actually wanted him to take both those suites at the time.

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He was there before Capacita or before um Ossa April.

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And he was a little nervous about taking that much and taking on that rent.

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And then about three months later, he comes to me and he goes, Man, he goes, man, I should have taken the whole thing, you know.

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He goes, We're cranking.

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So, but yeah, no, that's the wealth building.

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The awesome girls took the corner, and and I, to my knowledge, they're they're doing really good.

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Great, great gals, great, great gals.

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And they there's a new skateboard shop that opened on the corner there on eighth and Irwin.

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Yes, yes, yeah, a new skateboard shop coming in.

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Um there's um an I don't know if I could speak too soon, but um Capacito might be expanding a little bit their their spot.

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The the suite the suite to the south of them is going to be coming available late later this year, and they're they're looking into maybe expanding their space.

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Um, so that's that that'd be a good thing for them.

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One of the things that I find so interesting about that building is that the hidden gym is actually upstairs.

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So when so many of the buildings downtown are vacant and the upper stories, you've restored a lot of the upstair office space for um people to come in and do business.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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No, every one of those.

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Um, I I don't think there's any that we haven't gone through now.

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Um we eventually, as we have a turnover, um, there's very few.

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We have a we have a laundry list.

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I mean, the list of people wanting in that building, I I bet is probably 20 people deep at any given time.

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So that's awesome.

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Which is great.

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It's a great, it's a great spot.

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Um the the suites are you know between four, I think four and five hundred dollars a month.

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Um they're they're inexpensive.

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It includes power, it it's just a great trash, water, all that's included.

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Um, we keep the building up.

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Um the it's secure.

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Uh the tenants love it.

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It's just a great spot for our small business, for somebody to start off if they need an office, esthetician, barber, lawyer, uh, small office, um, family, you know, um, what is it?

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Um the uh counselors, the family counselors and things like that.

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Uh we have all that up there.

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Now, around the corner from the skateboard shop, there's also the studio and the place where people can go and take pictures.

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And uh Monica Ocano and her family have done an outstanding job with that business.

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That's part of the building as well, yeah.

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That is.

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She's actually amazing.

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She actually does a lot of our um, we actually hired her.

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Um not only is she a tenant, uh we we, you know, we're a customer to her too, also.

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She she helps us a lot with our social media and things like that.

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So she does an amazing job and she's she's doing really, really good.

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Kevin, I mentioned earlier about the history, uh the outstanding history of the Kings County Courthouse, and along with the civic auditorium, that is the one of the most iconic buildings in the city of Hanford.

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And when Max Walden took it over in the 1980s and started renovating it, I was gonna, I was telling you earlier that uh my family actually traveled up to Santa Cruz to the Cooper House, where he had renovated the courthouse up there for them, and we're so impressed by all the shops and businesses and everything.

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And Hanford really had some high hopes for that building, and unfortunately, it didn't pan out.

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And over the years, the building fell into disrepair and something had to be done.

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That actually the grand jury told the city at one point, you've got to do something about that building, it cannot uh stay in the condition that it's in.

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And here comes uh Esteam Land had a vision for the building.

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So let's go ahead and open this up.

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Let's talk about the vision for the building, some things that you've found and what's to come.

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Cool.

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Well, right now, um our our original plan is to put barrel house upstairs.

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So um we will do that.

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Um the like you said, the building had fallen to disarray, and that that was the biggest, the biggest hurdle, and we're we're challenged with that right now.

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So there's gosh, I want to say from electrical, plumbing, mechanical roof, all of that is is in disarray.

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It it needs a lot, a lot of love.

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Uh, we're working on all of that stuff now.

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We're working on the plumbing.

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Uh we're starting at the bottom, we're working on the basement, working to the second floor, to the third floor to um put in our you know, all of our infrastructure so upstairs can thrive.

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As we know, everything flows downhill, your water, your sewer, all that goes down, and all the stuff down bottom is in bad shape.

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We've we've pulled out about I think seven, seven or eight 40-yard bins of just garbage and and trash uh that that's been in the building.

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So we've been working pretty hard on that right now, and then we're trying to identify electrical, so forth.

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But right now, we would like to the first goal, first step one is to get all the infrastructure in the bottom, get all the utilities locked up tight, elevator modernized, wheelchair lift, ADA improvements, access to the building.

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We need to meet those requirements.

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Second is to go ahead and we're doing this right now.

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We're marketing the lower floor and the second floor for tenants.

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But we need, we need some tenants in there.

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And the good thing is if the tenants get in early now, if they get secure and can do well now, they're gonna do amazing once we get barrel house upstairs.

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And we're gonna look at a food purveyor also.

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We'll we'll we'll re-engage that kitchen.

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And there's a beautiful kitchen up there.

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It it's in, well, I don't say it's a beautiful kitchen when it's redone.

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All the bones are there.

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It's a wreck now.

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I think it's got about six inches of pigeon crap all over it.

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So, I mean, we're in their shovels and and trash cans scooping out pigeon trap, you know, crap.

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It's it's pretty rough.

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Um, so that that's but it's gonna be awesome when it's all done.

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It's gonna be an amazing place.

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Uh, I believe it will change downtown Hanford, and it's gonna change the dynamics of Hanford for sure.

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So that explains why we don't see fencing up around the exterior.

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There's a whole heck of a lot of work that needs to be done inside first, yeah.

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There is, yeah.

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The boat the building is in great shape.

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Um, you know, uh structurally, it's sound.

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Now we looked at the bastille a while back, and the bastille is not sound.

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The bestille has structural issues.

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There, there's actually the city did hired a structural engineer and they have plans to to show the the repairs on that.

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And it it's it has structural issues.

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Now, the courthouse does not.

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The courthouse is very, very sound, very, very well built and well established.

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There's nothing to be done on the outside, nor can we do anything on the outside because of the historic preservation of it.

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I mean, we probably could, but we'd have to petition and go through a process to do that.

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But we don't want to change the outside.

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Yeah, that's actually a great example of neoclassical Romanesque.

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style, architectural style.

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The Carnegie Museum is Richardson Romanesque and this is uh neoclassical Romanesque.

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So that's why you see the curs and all the different ornate shapes on it.

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So the you're required by the city, the agreement was that you're going to keep the building as is pretty much outside.

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Just restore what's there, yeah?

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That is correct.

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Yes.

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Yeah, we'll we'll leave the building as it is on the outside.

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We'll probably take the awnings down.

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I think that's probably the biggest thing.

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But those are those are pretty beat up anyway.

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Those need to come off.

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Whether we keep them or replace them, that's to be determined.

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So you found a lot of pigeon crap.

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You f you found a lot of things.

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Is there something that stands out that you saw that like I can't believe this is still just laying on the ground.

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No, you know it's funny you say that um we were tearing some of the old um heat pumps out of there and somebody had stuffed some old newspaper down in a floor and I I saw it and I was like no no everybody stop stop you know like wait a minute I got to check this out.

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And so like I'm easily just picking this this paper up and it's it's literally kind of crumbling you know it'd been down there a long time.

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I thought man I got I got something here you know I've been waiting to find something cool you know historic and nah it wasn't that old.

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I think it was from like the 70s or something maybe maybe in the 80s I couldn't it wasn't that old I I remember there was like a price of fuel or something on there and I go well it ain't that cheap.

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So it was still like you know a dollar a gallon or something.

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I'm like all right well it's not that old then.

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Yeah when we took over the Carnegie Museum building the old Carnegie Library that was built in 1905 we found one of these Gunter chains that was used to measure the bricks the spacing of the bricks oh no the concrete uh bricks at the base of it and that was like gold I mean we have we have that on display at the museum but um finding those types of things uh that building has gone through a lot the Bastille obviously has gone through a lot but that's not part of this project no no the the Bastille is definitely separate the from a lot of people mistake the Bastille between the courthouse the courthouse is a totally separate building um and I that's the probably the first thing I get out of anybody I talk to they always say oh you did you took the bestille it's like no no no it's the courthouse you know it's the bigger building next door and it it's some it's funny because everybody knows the seems like the Bastille name is way more recognized than the courthouse and in all honesty the courthouse is a thousand times better than the Bastille um and we were we originally looked at the Bastille and we can talk about that if you want at any given time um that was a whole nother deal years ago with the city yeah um that fell through but um you know Jason Jason was the one that actually I I give him all the credit for the courthouse he says hey you know years later he says what about the courthouse and I said oh you know I never really thought about it and I was the same one I was guilty of it too I thought man you always said the best still is so cool and then we got looking at the courthouse I got through I was like what were we thinking you know there's way more opportunity here and then as our as our minds started going we realized oh wow this is this is really this is bigger than us like I don't know you know I don't know how we're gonna do this this is this is crazy and but it seems like that's when we're our best you know we get over our heads on something and and I I I think we do it to ourselves all the time we get we get over our heads on certain things and and I think we come out wildly successful.

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I think it may brings out the best in us you know when we're really challenged and uh this is definitely one of them definitely with without a doubt.

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So I'm not putting you to the wall on this but there's a lot of people that are concerned like how long is this going to take they're excited to hear all this but they realistically it's it's gonna take a while to put all this together.

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Yeah no you you're exactly right yeah I mean we all want stuff to happen overnight you know um none of us have any patience this one's a big one this is gonna take a few years uh I'm gonna say minimum three uh we're the bottom stuff we'll get tenants in there hopefully in the next within the next six months on the on the basement floor and the second floor that's our goal within by the end of this year that will help us offset our burden of insurance and taxes and utilities and things like that that we have to pay um at least we can try and break even and we're not we're not bleeding out which is where we're at right now so we we really try and to do our best to make a suite and a spot available for great small business and get them in there get them established and then what's gonna happen is we're still continuing to work we're we're just we're just working we're never gonna stop working we're we're continuing to work upstairs I actually have um a couple people interested in partnering with us for food up there which will happen um so that that will take place upstairs and we're gonna have a great we're gonna have a great food purveyor up there and we're gonna have barrel house up there um everybody's gonna have to walk by every one of those businesses downstairs to get upstairs they're gonna walk by all of them it's gonna be an amazing building and it's gonna change Hanford it will definitely change Hanford you have a huge vision for this building and it's great it's we can hear the excitement in your voice about it and that makes us excited about that.

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And um you mentioned these businesses possibly you're looking for businesses to fill in some of these suites and I noticed on your website at esteemedlandco.com you actually have the listings and how to contact you for bases and I know maybe some of these people that are interested in the Wealth Center building might uh partner up with you on that.

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Esteemed Landco is also on Facebook and Instagram and you can follow along with some of their projects in Paso and by Sullivan of course barrel house uh locations in Fresno and on the coast and Kevin it's been wonderful visiting with you today and I know that people are very excited for the opening of this building and what would you like to say to the community about your commitment to this project we are definitely committed we're pot committed so this this will happen it's be patient come see us go on our website uh call us email us uh fill out an inquiry online uh we would love to have you any of your ideas if you have a suggestion an idea we're we're open man i want to hear it all uh we we have our our ideas uh some people have better ideas than us we're not perfect so yeah i'd love to hear from you know anybody else that might be interested in in renting the building leasing or you know renting a space in the building uh leasing a spot uh we we have a couple really cool cool locations i'd love to walk anybody if anybody's got an idea for their own business i'd love to walk them through we'll do as much as we can to accommodate their business so their their tenant improvements are cost effective and they're not as much out that's a that's a big thing for small business a lot of people fail to realize that that it costs money when you lease a place it's not just ready to go you got to brand it you got to make it yours you might have to paint it put floor covering in do the electrical you might have to move mechanical around or something and that that's thousands of dollars you know it sounds easy but it's expensive i i I can you know go talk to the Asae place or the cafecito you know those those people have a hundred thousand dollars into a building they don't own we have well over a million dollars millions of dollars into buildings that we don't own um but that's the commercial market and a lot of people fail to understand that small businesses encompass that so my our goal knowing that because we're on both ends we lease buildings from as barrel house and we own buildings so we're on both sides of the spectrum so our goal is to try and get the suite as close as we can where they where a small business can get in and be successful and they're not out a huge lot on the you know a huge amount on their TI we can't do their TI for them but we can try and at least get the infrastructure in place for them as close as possible uh to to mitigate those costs for them and that that you know that makes a secure tenant if they're they're successful that means they're paying their rent and we're successful as a building owner and we want strong tenants and we want them to be successful.

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It's it's a partnership and we we recognize that we you know we we don't want to just throw somebody in there we we really want to see business survive we're small business they are and it's a team it's a team team effort and I would love to see that and and I think the the courthouse is going to be the hottest spot in Hanford bar none it's gonna be really exciting.

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So come see us get online fill out a request ask questions you know get involved come check it out we'd love to walk you through it and now it's time for Hanford Insider Sports with Eric Bentley in girls basketball Sierra Pacific improved to 10 and 11 overall and one and one in league action with two dominant victories last week taking down Hanford West 79-10 on Monday and beating Readley 83-10 in non-league action Friday before Fogg canceled a Saturday showdown with Bullard.

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The Golden Bears will be at Selma on Tuesday this week with the home game versus Kerman on Friday.

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It's been tough sledding in the WIL for the Hanford High Girls basketball team as the Bullpups fell to 0-3 in league play following a big loss to Talary Union and a 10-point defeat at Tularie Western with a non-league loss to Redwood on Saturday the Bullpups have now lost eight in a row with another week of tough league action ahead at 3-0 Missionok on Wednesday before hosting a Lamore team that beat the Bullpups 40-37 earlier this year on Friday.

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And for Hanford West girls basketball the only score we have reported was the loss to Sierra Pacific.

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The Huskies will play at Exeter on Tuesday and home versus Emmanuel on Thursday.

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In boys basketball Hanford High picked up a pair of wins 71-44 versus Tular Western and at Redwood 68-52 after falling to Taler Union earlier in the week.

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The Bullpups at one and two in league play will look to keep that momentum rolling on the road this week at Missionoke on Wednesday and Lamore on Friday.

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A tough week versus tough competition for the Sierra Pacific boys basketball team last week falling to the top two teams in the league in Kingsburg and CVC, then taking a non-league loss to Stone Ridge Christian.

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Despite losing three in a row, the Golden Bears are still above 500 on the year at 11 and 10 overall with a good chance to improve their one and two league record this week at home versus Soma on Tuesday and Hanford West on Thursday.

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As for the Hanford West boys basketball team they remain winless in league after falling to Washington Union and Exeter last week with games versus Kermit on Tuesday and that matchup at Sierra Pacific Thursday.

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In soccer make it five in a row for the Sierra Pacific boys soccer team after taking down Emmanuel 3-2 and shutting out Kingsburg 3-0 to improve to 6 5 and 5 overall and 3-0 in league play.

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The first place Golden Bears will take on Hanford West this Friday.

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Hanford High Boys Soccer played to a pair of draws last week versus Tular Union and Tular Western and now sit at 0 1 and 2 in league.

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The Bullpups will play at Mission Oak on Wednesday and at Lamore on Friday.

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And Hanford West Boys Soccer fell to Washington Union and CVC last week with games versus Kingsburg and Sierra Pacific this week.

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The 9-2 and two Hanford High girls soccer team split their two league games last week taking down to Larry Union 2-1 on Tuesday before falling to league leading to Larry Western on Thursday 1-0.

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At second place in the WIL a pair of favorable matchups await the Bullpups this week at home versus Michiganoke on Wednesday and Lamore on Friday.

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And the only other girls soccer score we have reported from last week was a 7-0 Sierra Pacific win over Hanford West.

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As always if you have a score report or a team update from any level you can let us know by emailing HanfordInsider at gmail dot com.

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I'm Eric Bentley and this has been your Hanford Insider Sports Report Well that's all the time we have for this week's show.

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